行来思往 发表于 2014-8-14 15:34:57

《众秘夜思》第一集:畅所欲言(行来思往 2014年8月11日)

<div align="left"><div align="left"><p class="p0"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">《众秘夜思》首话:畅所欲言(行来思往<span lang="EN-US">&nbsp; 2014</span>年<span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">11</span>日)<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 32pt; line-height: 28pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 黑体; ">时间:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; ">2014</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; ">年<span lang="EN-US">8</span>月<span lang="EN-US">11</span>日</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 32pt; line-height: 28pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 黑体; ">地点:</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; ">老秘网“<span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://www.caiyes.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&amp;fid=35" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US">文稿修改演播室</span></span></a></span>”(<span lang="EN-US">QQ</span>群号:<span lang="EN-US">366351120</span>)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 32pt; line-height: 28pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 黑体; ">主持:</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; ">行来思往</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 32pt; line-height: 28pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 黑体; ">整理:</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; ">向阳花</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 32pt; line-height: 28pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 黑体; ">具体内容:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">各位同行大家晚上好。在 “文稿修改演播室”正式运行的第一个晚上,很高兴能和大家一起共话《众秘夜思》。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24pt; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">首先,让我们为“文稿修改演播室”的正式运行,来点掌声。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24pt; "><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">今晚主要跟大家进行文字交流。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">六层灰:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">(上次你在文稿修改演播室所讲的)“三点法”主要针对文章的目的和意义这一部分吗?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋"> 用在这一块,比较好使,基本能通吃。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">霞光:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-weight:
bold">“</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">三点式</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-weight:
bold">”</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">,吸引眼球!印象深刻!<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">目前,主要想和大家交流探讨一些公文写作的基本方法,解决下笔难的问题。我也是过来人,下笔难的困难都有过。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">六层灰:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">(“三点法”中所提到的)“二元结构”能不能理解为:从大的层面向小的方面转移落位的通道?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">“二元结构”,简单地理解,就是标题里有两个不同的主体,一高一低。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">六层灰:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">感觉用起来茫然不知所措。最大的问题还是一段话的逻辑结构混乱解决不了,有时候自己念过去觉得很顺,但是领导总能挑出一堆毛病。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这个需要一定的历练的过程。在于对材料的整体把握,和逻辑思维、文字的运用能力。首先方法要对路子。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">六层灰:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">恩,前两天看了老秘网上的一篇文章,首先就是说,井要挖好,我觉得方法就如一个容器,也就是用方法去抓平常所思所悟。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">能举个“二元结构”的例子吗?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">看一下这个标题,“开展党的群众路线教育实践活动,是实现党的十八大确定的奋斗目标的必然要求</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-weight:
bold">”</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋"> 。这就是我理解的典型的“二元结构”的标题:
一个是具体的活动,另一个是奋斗目标。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这样分啊。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这类部分(工作、活动的重要性或目的意义)的标题,一般都采用“一元结构”和“二元结构”,以“二元结构”为主。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">在日常应用中,有必要这样细致的归类分析吗?有什么意义呢?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">通常情况下在起草某项工作或活动的目的意义时,需要这样来分析,组织材料,这与我们起草这部分公文材料的习惯有关。比如,谈到重要性、目的意义,我们一般都把所要开展的活动或工作放在全局、大局、整体工作等方面来考量,认识所要开展的活动或工作的站位。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">指尖绚烂:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">放在环境中来分析?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">路味:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">醍醐灌顶<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">经常写这部分内容,多看多体会,大家印象会更深些。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">哦,这都上升到方法论的高度了,平时在无意识中也许我们已经这样做了,但是没有意识到,更没有从文章结构上给予分析。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">指尖绚烂:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">比如说某些活动(拿群教说),中央如何部署,习总书记怎么要求,省里如何动作,你该怎么办?比如说分析经济,要从国内大形势,全省规划布局和自身特点来分析优劣势,结论是要清楚认识,困难与希望同在,机遇与挑战并存。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">写材料也要琢磨个窍门,找找门道。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">指尖绚烂:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">跳出自己谈自己,从环境看,从他人看,客观地看。说一千道一万,要全面熟悉工作,这是核心,再掌握方法。先把握好写什么(内容),再追求怎么写(方法)。此后建议学习一些写作和逻辑的基础知识,这方面有很多现成的资料,如大手笔是怎样炼成的(谢亦森),李瑞环有一个古典诗词摘录,可以看看,增添文彩,再有空,看看张保忠、岳海翔等专家的书,还有一个,以前研究经济的专家王梦奎,写的《怎样写文章》一书,全是摘录的以前大家的经验之作。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 24pt; "><span style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">最重要的就是要多上老秘网,多向行来思往等老师请教,多在群里交流。当前,把习大大的系列的东西研究下,对自己有好处。</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋;mso-font-kerning:0pt">再建议学习一些写作和逻辑的基础知识。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这是必备的基本功,多学多练。这方面的文章和书籍很多。我个人以为首先选好一本适合自己的,研读透彻些,便于自己更好地理解和把握。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">还有我这样的菜鸟,就得多看你们交流 <span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">大家都是同行,利用老猫创设的这个平台,互相交流提高。我们也曾经很菜,现在只不过是以时间换得了一点空间。未来还是你们的。呵呵。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">问题是我菜的都不知道该说点啥!<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体;mso-font-kerning:
0pt">无悔:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋;mso-font-kerning:
0pt">三年最快可以达到什么水平?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这要看自己的功底了。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">指尖绚烂:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">这需要一个过程。积累学习的过程。不是一下子全部都学。饭一口口地吃,路一步步地走,知识一点点地积累。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">到位。大家畅所欲言,互相交流,也可谈一些个人想法或建议。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">我提个建议,咱们这样的交流方式不好把握主题,能不能采取通过实例来开展讨论?选取大家比较感兴趣的选题,然后找一些比较典型性的例子,发到群共享,大家以此来开展讨论<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">交流形式不限。如果我回答不了,可以记录下来,让擅长的老秘解答。我们这些老秘希望通过一些努力,能为新秘们在提高写作能力上给予真正的帮助。这也是老猫创设“文稿修改演播室”的初衷。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">没有问题就是最大的问题,像我现在提不出个问题可能就是最严重的问题了吧!<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">:不妨想想现在面对公文材料最大的困难是什么。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">无悔:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">尽了力写,感觉仍然写得不是自己想象中的效果,是什么原因啊?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24pt; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">&nbsp; </span></b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">自己可以理一下头绪,看看是观点提炼方面的,还是材料组织方面的,还是结构安排方面,还是文字运用方面的原因。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">冰蓝心:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">我的问题就是遣词造句,往往也知道要表达什么,但是不知道怎么说,有时候将一句话的关键词从网上搜一下,才能说出句完整的话来,真让我觉得没有网络,我就做不了工作了。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">:这是初学者常用的方法,我们现在也常用到。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:仿宋">在网上搜索后,将中意的文章认真研读一下,对相关表述可以归类搜集整理,结合材料实际重点组合运用。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">我现在最大的问题是面对写作任务太多了,习惯在网上先看别个是怎么写的,懒与自己去思考,久而久之,发现不依靠网络后,自己无法动笔了。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">住越湖:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">我也是这种情况,很想改变,可能是心里还没有建立框架结构。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">能者多劳啊,这也是大家在工作过程中常遇到的事。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">是啊,主要是单位文秘太少了,领导觉得写东西是一件很容易的事情。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">领导往往只看字数,不注重后面的付出。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">求觉迷者:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">看结果,不问过程。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">还是行来老师了解领导。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">霞光:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">拿到一堆散乱的素材后,如何将其为我所用?如何在瓦砾堆中去发现闪光的珠宝?有时候感觉自己无法在基础材料中去拔高提炼好的观点,以致于写出来的东西索然无味。请教!<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">素材的运用是一个长期积累的过程。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">现在有时写来写去感觉有点走火入魔了,最近调换了新单位,还在熟悉情况。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">偶就是这样过来的,很残酷啊,聪明人都跑了,偶还在坚守。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">求觉迷者:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">涅槃再生。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">还有谁?:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">怎样积累词汇,怎样运用词汇、固定词语的搭配,怎样分层?还有好多好多问题都不知道怎么解决。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:仿宋">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">我发现在我们群里的人,都是不断追求自我、不断向前冲的人,很荣幸来到这个群里。我之前的经验就是看人民日报、或者看领导的讲话,把一些写的好的词汇积累下来。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">欣雨:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">搭好框架,但是如何让材料充实起来、生动起来?这个把握不好。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">求觉迷者:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">讲话稿可以先搭框,而总结类的要以事为主,提炼观点,不要被框架框住。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">始終如Ⅰ:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">群里面有哪些大侠看过谢亦森《大手笔是怎么炼成的》这套书没有?其实写东西最难的就是搭框架,装内容我觉得还稍微简单点。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">求觉迷者:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">词汇积累要依据领导风格,依据单位工作特性,为谁服务就为谁着想,不是你的喜好。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">行来思往:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">词汇运用,素材提炼等基本功,需要平时多看多用,活学活用。<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体">旭旭:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋">框架要怎么学习?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

<p class="p0" align="left" style="text-indent: 24.1pt; "><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:楷体;mso-bidi-font-family:楷体"></span></b></p>**** Hidden Message *****<p class="p0" style="text-indent:24.1pt;mso-char-indent-count:2.0"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:仿宋"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

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老猫 发表于 2014-8-14 17:11:12

今后交流记录称之为《众秘夜思》第N集,如何?祝贺行思首播成功,感谢向阳花整理成文。

usb000 发表于 2014-8-15 14:17:04

集思广益,正在看大手笔是怎样炼成的,感触很多、帮助很多、提高很多。

了然 发表于 2014-8-19 11:08:00

很好很用心,很好很管用,很好很实在,认真学习,

小虻 发表于 2014-8-19 16:03:38

新手学习如何写作,顶。

猴子的救兵 发表于 2014-8-20 17:05:48

为什么看啥都要回复呢!?

胡晓华 发表于 2014-8-22 10:24:20

看了讲稿,有不少收获。

564184000 发表于 2014-8-25 15:26:39

学习了,收获很大。{:4_108:}{:4_108:}

BOSS 发表于 2014-8-29 16:52:06

看看张保忠、岳海翔等专家的书

孝南秘书 发表于 2014-9-11 23:33:12

正在看大手笔是怎样炼成的,感触很多、帮助很多。
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